I posted a picture on FB, which prompted a debate that I had not intended. Let's start with the picture:
I posted this with no accompanying text or comments. I posted this simply to let people to either answer this in the comments or just in their own mind. The question is a simple one and one that has been talked about and analyzed on many occasions. First let's look at what we have... A glass that is halfway filled with what looks like water and the comments on the left
Half empty? next to the empty part and
Half full? next to the full part. On the other side you have the question, "Which one are you?".
When you see a question in an image or a film, as humans with the ability to think, we automatically create an answer. The idea here is to see which answer you come up with and if you choose
Half empty? you are considered to be pessimistic and if you choose
Half full? you are considered to be optimistic. Is that really the case? It can be, but it could be a product of many things. The general idea of images like this, and you can see a ton of them online by using Google or Bing and do glass half empty as the search. This is not a new idea and it's been joked about in film and TV more than once.
My particular goal in this was to elicit a thought process by which you could see where you are and do some self evaluation. If you want to change something in your life, the easiest thing to change is the way you think about "it" or think about yourself. If you can see how your outlook can be predetermined with a simple picture of a half full/empty glass, maybe you can see how your outlook is already predetermined on other things in your life that are hugely more important. This ability to see where your perspective leads you can also lead you to changing the way you look at things. Inability to do that can be detrimental to your own growth.
To the crux of the debate that was laid onto me. This was the first post and subsequently the start of the debate that I was not asking for:
If
I, was an 18 wheeler and was half empty or half full and was on my way
to New York City to pick up a full load how could that theoretical
philosophy or the physics na equation fit into the formula for me to be
able to pick up a full load sir?
I assume from what was posted is that he is asking how would I be able to know full if I don't know empty. The Ying and Yang philosophy, Good and Evil or Angel and Devil that sit on our shoulder. Leaving the whole idea of shipping out of the equation, it is simple. We are taught at a very young age good vs evil ... especially in the Bible belt south we live in. What does that mean? We all know the stories in the Bible, well not all of them probably, but the important ones. Noah, Job and especially Jesus and the Apostles stories. We get our sense of morality from our parents and grandparents and they are usually religion based. We all know how good and bad feel within ourselves. What I mean is, if you do something that is considered good you get praise and if you do something bad you get scolded. This is true for probably every culture, but I can't speak for all. It is an assumption, but one I think most would make in this position. The only time this doesn't happen is when the parenting models are not there or they are maligned in some way. This can lead to improper or inappropriate responses directed toward us that make us feel bad when we do good and feel good when we do bad. I have no idea how often this happens in the world, and I would probably be sad to know the truth.
Back to the debate... So within the context of the question posed "Which one are you?" you should be able to quickly and rationally have an answer of one OR the other. I posted this:
If
you were an 18 wheeler and in route to pick up a full load I would hope
that the person driving you had enough sense to know the difference.
It was a bit dismissive and flippant and I will admit to that, no doubt there. I really only wanted people to use one or the answers for their comment. Philosophical debates tend to make people unlikely to post. Many reasons and none I care to explain or go in to at this time. I just wanted people to participate and that single comment killed what could have been a great look into oneself for the rest of the people who might have posted and it was frustrating. This is the following post...
OK
thanks. Just tryn to show different aspects of the same thing in the
physics, that are different. Just saying the theory of the analytical
analogy of the glass being have full or half empty. I see the balance
you speak of. Also the half full being a seeker of truth for more truth.
And half empty being self-pity. This is my question ( just looking at
another level of thinking ). If you cup is half full how can a person go
and pick up a full load. My intentions are not to be argumentative. I'm
just trying to make another point get somebody to talk to me about it
in theory. From my perspective sometimes it's good to be empty
theoretically in order to receive the full measure of what is being
shared. Once the ego takes control even with a half of cup sometimes it
is hard to obtain full picture of the understanding of the load that
must be carried to have vision in clarity. Sir
I think some things may be lost in translation, but I formulated my previous opinion of what he was saying on this post more than the first one. I may or may not be correct in what he thinks, but that is what I got out of it. Now, while you can get into the metaphysical aspect:
Metaphysics:a (1) :
a division of philosophy that is concerned with the fundamental nature
of reality and being and that includes ontology, cosmology, and often
epistemology (2) : ontology 2
b : abstract philosophical studies : a study of what is outside objective experience
and debate how a person can know the difference or experience the difference of full knowledge of a subject such as pessimism and optimism and how those can be defined within their own reality, I was not trying to get into that debate as we see it here. I simply wanted to make people think about how they look at the world we live in. Hope they could see the bright side of things.
This actually started when someone else talked about how crappy it was outside in comparison to how it has been. Today it was 47 yesterday close to or at 70 and the day before was the same. I attempted to add some optimism and was rebuked with the 10 day forecast is calling for snow and 30's... So looking on the bright side, like you are alive or there is no snow on the ground right now or even the fact that you just had two glorious days did nothing for them but make them pissy about the upcoming chance for snow. I have another friend that is digging out of feet of snow in Minnesota... Check your perspective and realign your thinking. That is when I wanted to see how many people would say half full or half empty. Well that was a wash too. My next post was as follows:
I
am not really trying to show anyone the difference... the idea of half
full (optimist) and half empty (pessimist) is pretty common.. and the
idea you speak of in a metaphysical sense is a different conversation
outside of this all together... I didn't take it as argumentative, more
of just off topic... My question was simple way to have self evaluation
on whether you think optimistically or pessimistically.. because when
the majority of people look at that picture they have a formulated
decision on the half full/half empty topic and I am only hoping that
people can see this and realize that the world is what you make.. good
or bad
I think my premise was well stated and it could have ended there, but there was persistence yet again for the debate of something I wasn't even talking about.
I
understand what you're saying and still disagree with you, of what i
say being off-topic, in theory whats the difference just talking about a
full glass or an empty glass. Some people have it all and some have
nothing. Seems to me optimism and pesimism, sure would apply to these
factors as well. Sir
I still think it's off topic, but I see nothing I say will make this stop. Now the idea of optimism and pessimism is being offered up with something else that is entirely off topic and that is people having "something" or "nothing". The eluding to a completely full glass or empty glass instead of half. Again, this is going in a direction that is not where I wanted it to. He is now implying that the pessimism or optimism are being rated by haves and have-nots. I see the tie in here with fullness being achieved vs having nothing. When do we have everything or nothing. Those are again, non objective ideas because the definition of having or not having it all can be different to different people. The real crux of the start of the original post was to see how people viewed the world around them ... Optimistically or pessimistically. It was a simple answer as we all have that gut reaction. You may say you don't, but you do. Example: If there were 5 glasses on the table and 2 were completely full and 2 were completely empty and the other was half ( full/empty) and you want that one. You don't say give me the glass that has neither nothing in it or every thing in it. You say give me the one that is half (full/empty). You will do it every time and you will choose which way you say it without regard to anything other how you look at it. BINGO!!!! That is the answer. That is it. No debate.
So the posting continues...
I
am aware that there are many perspectives out there a person with a
full/half/or empty glass can be pessimistic or optimistic.. that is
always the way things are. I am only looking into the perspective of one
area that is the half full/empty glass and
which comes to mind first to continue to debate the other aspects of
the idea of optimism or pessimism is not what I was wanting to do.
Getting insight on how we think is key to being able to change. So when I
ask a simple question of which one of the 2 options listed do you
categorically align with, that is the answer I seek. Not any other and
as to keep this from becoming a convoluted post (impossible now) and
just a way to have some self discovery for people who otherwise might
not even entertain how their outlook on the world around can sway their
decision making process..
Of course it isn't over.
optimistic
ˌäptəˈmistik/
adjective
1.hopeful and confident about the future.
Pessimistic
ˌpesəˈmistik/
adjective
1.tending to see the worst aspect of things or believe that the worst will happen.
The
glass, being half full or half empty? It is both all the time in theory
of the physics you speak of. no matter how optimistic or pessimistic
you are 50/50 is the balance if good and bad of what life realistically
actually exist by. We need on as much as the other.
The
balance within each 50% is a 100%. It takes both to exist and order to
understand my point. They are not separate entities. Like I said it is
the same as having the glass empty or the glass runneth over would you
be fulfillment at death.
I speak of all life all perspectives 360 degrees of perspective to the
point you're making. Let's not limit ourselves here. Give me
communication this is the golden key in the philosophy of the theory of
mathematics. I'm trying is that better? Sir
Is
it so hard to conceive the possibility that this analogy is for one
level of the processes within the abstract application of truth, that
you're trying to represent .
We are back to the Ying and Yang concept, or we are back to filling it full. Neither of the 2 ideas posed here are what I was looking for, but now the post is as dead as the idea I started with. Now rambling on with cup runneth over would be fulfillment at death is ridiculous. If you are dying you are not cup runneth over and if your cup isn't runneth over and you die how is that fulfilling? Neither makes sense. I will, however, agree with the definitions of optimistic and pessimistic. Those are good definitions. Then after a bit and me saying I would take this up in this forum instead of continually dismantling my original post this pops up:
You
asked which one are you? Half empty or half full? I am both and I am
neither. Its the duality of all perspectives relative theory.
What if (hypothetically speaking of course) the real analogy of the abstract glass being optimist or pessimist perspective
of life. That if we believe in the power of love and rooted in it. That
sometimes it would seam mathematically necessary to observe the glass
being empty and/or overflowing.
It
seems to me in life with the cup being half empty or half full means
you have something tangible, monetary or applicable. In my point, at
some point the cup must be empty, have Nothing in it.
In
this society today, no one wants nothing, everyone wants something. To
be happy with nothing would seem very optimistic to me. And being
miserable when we have everything cause we lost the moon while counting
stars.
So if we are materialistic it would seem that the analogy of the
abstract glass being half full or half empty would be the most
plausible. If you are not materialistic the analogy of having a empty
glass would be way more attractive if we are seeking our Optimal
potential to receive a full measure. This is just as a factual point as
your point. Or please feel free to explain to me what I am unable to
see. Sir
Again we go to a metaphysical observation. I have not said I do or don't necessarily agree with what he was saying. He just was off topic and WAY over thinking the idea of optimism and pessimism as represented in the original picture. What does all of this mean? From his point of view I am sure it means love more and be happy with what you have. Great. That wasn't the goal here, but if I have to talk about it then I will say it. It is easy to allow the world and what we have and don't have shape how we think. I already knew this and I wasn't getting into that. I was getting into how we perceive the world around us and it happens as soon as we see a picture or entertain a single thought.
This mindset can be helpful or detrimental depending on your perspective and how it relates to you and the decisions you make. I never thought life was a simple yes/no or true/false deal. I never thought it was as simple as "Half empty?" or "Half full?". I do think, however, our life can be affected by the idea behind the same ideas that makes us choose "Half empty?" or "Half full?" when posed that question. If you are optimistic "Half full", then have the ability to see the good in things or the bright future. If you are pessimistic "Half empty", then you tend to see the negative and a dismal outlook on the future. That isn't always the case, but it all boils down to tendencies. You have the tendency to react to a situation one way or another based on your preconceived ideals of optimism and pessimism or how you see the world good or bad. We already talked about how you learn good and evil at an early age, but by the time we leave high school we are well versed in what is right and wrong.
The idea that material possessions can make your out look better has always been there. If only I had that or If only I could be like him/her. This idea is not new and has been around since Cain and Able if you are a Bible reader. It boils down to envy and being covetous for something you don't have or being greedy no matter how much you already have. This is my guess what the poster was referring to and yes it is there and it is something to be considered, but with regards to how you view the world whether optimistic or pessimistic there is only one answer. Half full or Half empty? Which one are you?